- They are reported here as considering putting up National Insurance (just what we need now, a tax on jobs).
- They are planning to take back £60 a month from 300,000 low-income households (do they even know who their core support is anymore?)
- They might freeze pay for public sector workers (so the entire population if Labour continue on this path)
It seems Labour are so busy pathetically making grabs for "the gay vote" that they have completely forgotten about everyone else.
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I have no allegiance to any political party or persuasion, never have and probably never will.I am an ordinary Joe, I am getting on in years now, have watched politics to and fro, over my life time. I don't know how old you are, but I will tell one thing that frightens me. I lived through the previous Tory governments and the Thatcher years and have absolutely terrible memories of them, they were dreadful times for the country and it's people.
Damaging things happened then, that we have never recovered from.
All those who are thinking of a great new Tory dawn would appear to either far too young to remember the past Tory governments, of if not, suffering from some kind of memory loss. Be aware some things that you are all for, suddenly turn round and take a great chunk out of your rear end.
I'm afraid, like it or not, Thatcher was very much a necessary politician, and if we had a choice of 1979 Thatcher vs 2009 Brown, knowing the consequences of Thatcher, the British public would probably elect her with a record high vote. However, that's not the point. The point is, would Labour be any better than the Tories right now? No. Not at all. No-one can possibly hold this society in high regard.
Try walking down the streets of East London, or the council estates of Manchester. These are the places where the patriotic, Tory-voting working classes lived 50 years ago. Now look at them. If you can find someone with a job, you're a magician. That's if you're not stabbed on your way.
To be quite honest the policies of the Thatcher/Major followed by the Blair/Brown governments have done undeterminable damage to this country and it's people.
These two political parties have failed Britain and led us to the precipe of disaster.( some might say further)
I have no allegiances to any parties or bodies. But realise more of the same is not the answer,something new radical has got to happen, or it's over the cliff we go.
God help us.
As you suggest I barely remember the Thatcher/ Major governments and have learnt much from books, old newspapers and word of mouth. I do not stand by everything Thatcher did. Some of it was arguably excessive but I look around myself now and see this country in the worst state I ever have (not that much of a claim I realise).
I see it as much worse than anything I have read or heard about from the Thatcher years. However even if you don't accept this, even if you think it was worse under her and Major I would simply say: there was a point.
The Tories did damage to certain parts of Britain, certain regions, certain industries and certain groups of people. However there was a reason for it. There was an aim. Britain was in an absolutely atrocious state in 1979 and Thatcher sought to improve it. Whether you think she was successful will often depend on how personally you, your friends and family were affected.
Now Britain is arguably in a worse state. Not just certain areas but the whole country. If anyone can explain to me why this Government has put us in this state I will be singularly impressed. Both Governments caused problems but one led to over a decade of impressive economic growth, the other plunged us into the deepest recession for 8 decades.
Good fair post T/O. Yes what Thatcher done was excessive to put it lightly I would say more like extreme, yes and it happened as a backlash to the previous Labour governments, the unions and so on. So as a result the country went on a different route and followed the right wing Capitalist model.
Which is ok for a certain amount of time, but where it went disastrously wrong is that the Labour party that took power in 1997 had become new Labour which in my mind was just a Tory clone. Old labour would have taken us back some way to a more Left wing views.As daft as it seemed the the overal result over time was fairly well balanced.
But with now having two parties with very similar views we have been going in a particular direction for 30 years. And looking back and history probably support this to a certain extent, wwhen you get one particular party in power for too long it ends in serious problems.Now this time we have had two parties that are almost the same holding power for far too long resulting in well we all know,We are in a huge mess socially, morally, finacially and everything else you care to mention.
My views are that both parties are equally to blame.
I come from a working class background left school at 14 with no qualification so most of my life I have been slight labour supporter. Now I find myself disliking both main parties, and realise that neither are capable of digging us out of this hole that they have both created.
The answer needs to be something much more radical,we need to get away from this tribal party thing,you know toeing the party line
and so on.Some fresh new faces with new ideas,independent people with integrity who are not ruled by finance, who are doing the job for all the right reasons.
The public need to have a much bigger input to their mp's and their governments decisions, otherwise we go nowhere.
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